Evading PvP solo is not the same as fighting solo.

Ratters refitting to PvP modules and not warp core stabs would be a lot less of an issue.

Same small group of easy-moders seem to think if they make the same noises over and over again their opinions will actually start to make sense. Unfortunately you can call a turd a gem as much as you like but it'll still be a turd.

These depots, along with suicide ganking will still be lame, poor, sad gameplay that removes skill, risk and effort from the game. If it makes you feel better you can believe it though. Me, I'll playing the game on its normal setting.

That sounds like what a criminal once said to me. The laws of society don't matter as long as you can get away with breaking them...

Me on the other hand, I prefer to play within the rules as much as possible. When I signed up for EVE 10 years ago I signed up for a particular type of game. I have put a lot of effort into my characters and I will continue to try to prevent the wowsters from making this into another piece of shite game.

If that simply means posting against the garbage the developers are putting out then that's what I'll do. Its garbage, they don't seem to have any idea of why this game attracted the loyal following it did and they seem intent on doing the same thing Sony did to EQ - make it into easy, consensual, casual garbage.

How isnt it?

For anyone coming to this thread late I'll sum up some of the gems we've discovered so:

OH MY GOD. Target and fire on the depot. You do realise YOU CAN REFIT IN SECONDS with an already deployed depot. If I'm a tackler doing even 500 dps which is very unlikely I cannot reinforce ITTTTTT before he fits stabs and warps away, jebus.

HOW DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT .... :)

You can't do it because the mobile depot is too OP. You can refit and warp out before the Cynabals ever arrive. With the ability to insta fit 8 nuets, 7 WCS, webs, scrams, ECM (damps with range script to inties with point = no points) onto that Apoc the Inties are going to be hoping you're just going to warp away. Especially if they have to fit scrams.

If the Cynabals did arrive the Apoc can still warp, but it can also put 4 neuts onto each Cynabal, that's no cap every 6 seconds, = no scrams, no propulsion, no tank...

You think wrong. Even if they all magically could land there within 1 millisecond he can still warp.

I'm guessing you have never been to null hey? If you had you would understand that local ensures that everyone see's you coming. That's why you have 10 bubbles on the gate. It allows you to rat in peace, knowing that you will never be able to get caught before you can warp to POS or station.

And you're wrong about the server ticks. It does matter. If you arrive and tackle a millisecond before the next tick you don't have to wait the extra second. But that's of course completely irrelevant to the discussion.

Edit: Inties and T3 excluded, though T3 warp slow enough that you can still get away.

You'd have to be asleep to not notice. You obviously have not been to null.

No it changes everything. You can get away with being asleep now.

We're not talking about being actually physically asleep - we're talking not being aligned, temporarily distracted by npcs, whatever. That just means they don't warp before you get there, you're still not going to kill 17k of ehp before they can refit once you show up on their overview.

I guess I shouldn't expect you to understand basic things like spontaneity, hit and run tactics, guerrilla warfare or any of the other sorts of combat that would normally occur in a normal game that didn't model 17th century "line at at x time and shoot each other" doctrine.

I don't ask for anything, I believe that a natural consequence of warfare is that it is highly unpredictable, which is nothing to what EvE warfare is. EvE warfare is like a poor mans version of WoW battlegrounds, except there's only one flag and the players get 24 hours to fill it up with the intention of making the system perform so badly they can't possibly lose.